Jay Dyer : Jonathan Pageau

In this conversation with Jay Dyer, we look at predictive programming, propaganda, Hollywood, and the growing role of AI in shaping how we imagine the future. We also discuss technocracy, centralization, and why the most important response may be much closer to home: rebuilding strong families, parishes, and local communities.

01:31 – Introduction

03:32 – What Is Predictive Programming?

08:32 – Propaganda, Art, and Soft Power 14:48 – Hollywood and the Intelligence Agencies

18:03 – Preparing the Public for War 22:33 – Hollywood’s Revolutionary Narrative

28:58 – Globalism, Nationalism, and the Nation-State

31:50 – The Power of Invisible Institutions

36:39 – Why Dystopias Can Still Condition Us

43:07 – The Real Temptation of The Matrix

46:11 – Social Engineering Through Entertainment

49:01 – Why Promote Self-Destructive Narratives?

53:39 – Long-Term Planning and the Technocratic Vision

57:55 – Toward a Global Technocratic State

01:01:40 – Has AI Replaced the Old Narratives?

01:05:23 – AI and the Logic of Inevitability

01:10:47 – Technology, Power, and Centralization

01:13:11 – The Christian Alternative: Subsidiarity

01:17:35 – Conclusion